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Title: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: chuckinator5k on July 16, 2018, 01:04:00 AM
I picked up a used Toneville Beale St. 1x12 20 watt amp. It has a fifties Bomb Shelter aesthetic which I don't really care for but overlooked because it was a good deal. What a sweet amp! Real glassy tones and fairly easily overdriven with no pedals. Very heavy. Walnut and maple cabinet, solid as a rock. Built in attenuator. I put a Strymon Blue Sky in between a Fender Professional Strat and the amp. Had the Strymon set on room with the decay cranked. I started to float up into the room! The Strat has Tim Shaw designed pups, love those things. Hope y'all are in Toneville or somewhere near!  8)

https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/20030-toneville-amplifiers-beale-st-review (https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/20030-toneville-amplifiers-beale-st-review)
Title: Re: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: chuckinator5k on July 20, 2018, 01:50:09 AM
So I've had this amp for a few days now. It's making weird noises, probably a tube going out. I have 30 days to take it back from whence it came, a Music Go Round close to my house. I tried the Toneville amp website, doesn't work. They have a Facebook page. I'm not on Facebook. Turns out that the music store that sells the amps is how you get ahold of the amp manufacturer. Same owner. No Website. One year warranty. That's some bullshit right there. I called and talked to a guy at the music store. He's going to relay my info to the owner to see if he can go through it and tell me what's wrong with it. Whoever owned the amp before me was pretty rough on it. It's scratched up pretty bad. I would have taken it back already by now but I love the amp. It sounds fantastic. If I don't hear from the guy soon, I'll take it to an amp repair place and see how soon they can tell me what's up with it. They're 2600.00 new, I paid 1300.00. They need to take a lesson from Two Rock and get their poop in a group! Two Rock has a five year warranty. Any repair is a maximum of 300.00 bucks after the warranty is up. I have a Two Rock Cardiff, I'll post a thread on it. It's real nice of course. lol
Title: Re: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: DannyDV8 on July 20, 2018, 05:19:32 AM
I've played Fenders all my life.  Say what you will, but they're reliable!
Title: Re: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: chuckinator5k on July 20, 2018, 01:40:11 PM
I've played Fenders all my life.  Say what you will, but they're reliable!
Can't beat a Fender. I have 4 of'em. I got one of those hand wired Deluxe Tweeds, love that thing! Liked it so much, I bought another. Thought about running in stereo. Probably going to sell one. Also have a Princeton reissue and a Super Champ. Since getting the Cardiff, I haven't touched the other amps as much. Another thing I noticed about the Toneville, the attenuator stopped working. Think I'm just going to take it back. The one year warranty pisses me off. With everything about that company being half assed, (except the tone of the amp), I have a feeling I won't hear from the guy. I mean, do you stand behind your shit or what??? I can put that money towards another Two Rock. Damn those things are pricey though. Used is the way to go. Got a fantastic deal on the Cardiff (1200.00 on Reverb).
Title: Re: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: chuckinator5k on July 21, 2018, 06:34:01 PM
UPDATE: Run, don't walk AWAY from these amps. I did a little research. I liked the tone enough to drive down to Colorado Springs and try out a new one just to see how a new one is supposed to operate/sound. According to the website of the place that sells them, they have new ones. You can order one online and pay for it with a credit card. On the website, the Beale Street and Broadway look exactly the same. Here's the amp page from the website. https://www.luccimusic.com/collections/amplifiers (https://www.luccimusic.com/collections/amplifiers) So I ask the guy, "What's the difference between the Beale Street and Broadway?" He says, "The Beale Street has a blue plastic front on them. The Broadway has a Maple front. OK. I have a Broadway. (they look exactly the same on the website) I ask, "Where are your Toneville amps?" He says, "We only have one. It's used." I thought to myself, "What kind of chickenshit outfit is this?" They have 1 used Toneville, yet you can go to their website and buy a new one with a credit card? I asked, "Is the warranty transferable?" Answer, "Don't know." I asked, "How can I tell if this amp is still under warranty or not?" Answer, "Don't know." I smell a cokehead business owner. Taking this mfer back as fast as I can! Too bad. It sounded nice until it started messing up.
Title: Re: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: DannyDV8 on July 21, 2018, 09:08:57 PM
I recently picked up a limited edition Fender Princeton.  It 10 watts instead of 12, has hand wound custom transformers, they took out the anti feedback, so it breaks up really fast, and has neon blue Tolex covering, with a 10 inch Celestion speaker instead of the usual 12".  It's the only amp I've ever had that makes me say "Damn, this thing sound just like me!"  I also have a new SuperSonic 22 that I LOVE TO DEATH!  Blonde Tolex, oxblood grill cloth. Lad channel, and an effects loop that I run a vol. pedal through.
Title: Re: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: chuckinator5k on July 22, 2018, 12:30:24 AM
I recently picked up a limited edition Fender Princeton.  It 10 watts instead of 12, has hand wound custom transformers, they took out the anti feedback, so it breaks up really fast, and has neon blue Tolex covering, with a 10 inch Celestion speaker instead of the usual 12".  It's the only amp I've ever had that makes me say "Damn, this thing sound just like me!"  I also have a new SuperSonic 22 that I LOVE TO DEATH!  Blonde Tolex, oxblood grill cloth. Lad channel, and an effects loop that I run a vol. pedal through.

Sweet! Can't beat a good Princeton. Immaculate cleans baby! I think my Princeton has a 10". Haven't played it much but will when I start recording.
Title: Re: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: chuckinator5k on July 22, 2018, 02:43:25 PM
I shouldn't assume the guy who owns Toneville is a cokehead. That is wrong. But the evasiveness of the guy at the store makes me think something is amiss. I imagine it's pretty tough to start and keep a new amp company going. I don't know why the company floundered. Like, is it a result of something happening to the guy or his family or just poor business practices? Cancer or an accident or something like that can mess up any well laid plans. Bottom line, if it's a 2600.00 dollar amp with a one year warranty, I'll get something else.
Title: Re: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: DannyDV8 on July 22, 2018, 06:05:19 PM
I shouldn't assume the guy who owns Toneville is a cokehead. That is wrong. But the evasiveness of the guy at the store makes me think something is amiss. I imagine it's pretty tough to start and keep a new amp company going. I don't know why the company floundered. Like, is it a result of something happening to the guy or his family or just poor business practices? Cancer or an accident or something like that can mess up any well laid plans. Bottom line, if it's a 2600.00 dollar amp with a one year warranty, I'll get something else.
Damned straight!
Title: Re: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: DannyDV8 on July 22, 2018, 06:07:38 PM
I recently picked up a limited edition Fender Princeton.  It 10 watts instead of 12, has hand wound custom transformers, they took out the anti feedback, so it breaks up really fast, and has neon blue Tolex covering, with a 10 inch Celestion speaker instead of the usual 12".  It's the only amp I've ever had that makes me say "Damn, this thing sound just like me!"  I also have a new SuperSonic 22 that I LOVE TO DEATH!  Blonde Tolex, oxblood grill cloth. Lad channel, and an effects loop that I run a vol. pedal through.

Sweet! Can't beat a good Princeton. Immaculate cleans baby! I think my Princeton has a 10". Haven't played it much but will when I start recording.
Princetons usually have a 12" and it usually an Eminence.
Title: Re: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: chuckinator5k on July 22, 2018, 07:00:33 PM
I recently picked up a limited edition Fender Princeton.  It 10 watts instead of 12, has hand wound custom transformers, they took out the anti feedback, so it breaks up really fast, and has neon blue Tolex covering, with a 10 inch Celestion speaker instead of the usual 12".  It's the only amp I've ever had that makes me say "Damn, this thing sound just like me!"  I also have a new SuperSonic 22 that I LOVE TO DEATH!  Blonde Tolex, oxblood grill cloth. Lad channel, and an effects loop that I run a vol. pedal through.

Sweet! Can't beat a good Princeton. Immaculate cleans baby! I think my Princeton has a 10". Haven't played it much but will when I start recording.
Princetons usually have a 12" and it usually an Eminence.
Mine is a Princeton Reverb, has a 10" Jensen C-10R, 15 watts. Very spanky.
Title: Re: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: KenBJammen on July 30, 2018, 12:58:09 PM
I love the tone of tube amps... but sold them all and went Kemper.  NO pedals, no amps, quick and easy set ups. 
Title: Re: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: chuckinator5k on July 30, 2018, 03:06:59 PM
I love the tone of tube amps... but sold them all and went Kemper.  NO pedals, no amps, quick and easy set ups.
I've been seeing that thing advertised, hadn't checked it out until now. Very interesting! My question is, can you get a nice singing feedback from it? Nothing digital that I've used will do that like a good overdriven tube amp. I bought a Line 6 Firehawk (like a dumbass), it can get feedback but not the singing kind you can get from a tube amp. Also have a Helix. Haven't touched them in a long time. I've been loving me some tube amps. Still have my Egnater Renegade and 2x12 cab. It will do the beautiful feedback thing as will my Mesa Boogie 50 Caliber, Fender Deluxe Tweed and Two Rock Cardiff. Speaking of feedback, I watched Steve Vai at the Iridium on PBS night before last. He uses lots of beautiful feedback.
Title: Re: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: KenBJammen on July 31, 2018, 01:05:39 AM
I love the tone of tube amps... but sold them all and went Kemper.  NO pedals, no amps, quick and easy set ups.
I've been seeing that thing advertised, hadn't checked it out until now. Very interesting! My question is, can you get a nice singing feedback from it? Nothing digital that I've used will do that like a good overdriven tube amp. I bought a Line 6 Firehawk (like a dumbass), it can get feedback but not the singing kind you can get from a tube amp. Also have a Helix. Haven't touched them in a long time. I've been loving me some tube amps. Still have my Egnater Renegade and 2x12 cab. It will do the beautiful feedback thing as will my Mesa Boogie 50 Caliber, Fender Deluxe Tweed and Two Rock Cardiff. Speaking of feedback, I watched Steve Vai at the Iridium on PBS night before last. He uses lots of beautiful feedback.

Absolutely more responsive than any tube amp that I have ever owned.   Yes able to get amazing long music feedback.  Just trying to find some videos I did.  Yes the firehawk is a serious dud.

Here's a few clips of me playing.  You should be able to see them without logging in to facebook.  Let me know if not.

https://www.facebook.com/kenwagman/videos/10211371575100868/?t=0 (https://www.facebook.com/kenwagman/videos/10211371575100868/?t=0)

https://www.facebook.com/kenwagman/videos/10211371575100868/?t=0 (https://www.facebook.com/kenwagman/videos/10211371575100868/?t=0)

and jamies song again live:

https://www.facebook.com/fromthewreckageband/videos/1588013954608581/ (https://www.facebook.com/fromthewreckageband/videos/1588013954608581/)



Title: Re: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: chuckinator5k on January 28, 2019, 09:06:59 PM
I love the tone of tube amps... but sold them all and went Kemper.  NO pedals, no amps, quick and easy set ups.
I've been seeing that thing advertised, hadn't checked it out until now. Very interesting! My question is, can you get a nice singing feedback from it? Nothing digital that I've used will do that like a good overdriven tube amp. I bought a Line 6 Firehawk (like a dumbass), it can get feedback but not the singing kind you can get from a tube amp. Also have a Helix. Haven't touched them in a long time. I've been loving me some tube amps. Still have my Egnater Renegade and 2x12 cab. It will do the beautiful feedback thing as will my Mesa Boogie 50 Caliber, Fender Deluxe Tweed and Two Rock Cardiff. Speaking of feedback, I watched Steve Vai at the Iridium on PBS night before last. He uses lots of beautiful feedback.

Absolutely more responsive than any tube amp that I have ever owned.   Yes able to get amazing long music feedback.  Just trying to find some videos I did.  Yes the firehawk is a serious dud.

Here's a few clips of me playing.  You should be able to see them without logging in to facebook.  Let me know if not.

https://www.facebook.com/kenwagman/videos/10211371575100868/?t=0 (https://www.facebook.com/kenwagman/videos/10211371575100868/?t=0)

https://www.facebook.com/kenwagman/videos/10211371575100868/?t=0 (https://www.facebook.com/kenwagman/videos/10211371575100868/?t=0)

and jamies song again live:

https://www.facebook.com/fromthewreckageband/videos/1588013954608581/ (https://www.facebook.com/fromthewreckageband/videos/1588013954608581/)

Sounds nice Ken!!! I might have gone that route had I not already preordered a Two Rock Bloomfield Drive. I'll post a thread and eventually some clips. Very happy with it although it was very pricey. On the other hand, I'm selling a buttload of amps I won't be using any more. :yay!:
Title: Re: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: DannyDV8 on March 14, 2019, 02:43:56 AM
I picked up a couple of the Boss Katana amps.  I never would believed I could fall in love with a solid state amps, but the 100 watt has 8 channels, and they're all programable.  The 50 watt has 4 channels, same deal.  The only thing you have to mes with when you set up is the master volume, and that doesn't change the tone of what you've programed.  It also comes with 50 effects, that are also programable.  I've been using both of them with a Live Wire Solutions A/B/Y box, and the tone is consistently the best I've ever got.  No running back to the amp adjusting the tone every time I change the volume.  Best of all, both amps came to a grand total of around $570.  They don't sell like hotcakes, hotcakes sell like them!  I'm still keeping my pile of Fender amps, but I won't be parting with these any time soon either!
Title: Re: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: chuckinator5k on March 19, 2019, 07:40:42 PM
I picked up a couple of the Boss Katana amps.  I never would believed I could fall in love with a solid state amps, but the 100 watt has 8 channels, and they're all programable.  The 50 watt has 4 channels, same deal.  The only thing you have to mes with when you set up is the master volume, and that doesn't change the tone of what you've programed.  It also comes with 50 effects, that are also programable.  I've been using both of them with a Live Wire Solutions A/B/Y box, and the tone is consistently the best I've ever got.  No running back to the amp adjusting the tone every time I change the volume.  Best of all, both amps came to a grand total of around $570.  They don't sell like hotcakes, hotcakes sell like them!  I'm still keeping my pile of Fender amps, but I won't be parting with these any time soon either!

Kick ass! Solid state stuff has come a long way. I just now made a deal with my brother. Trading him my Helix processor and Princeton for his Gibby 335. I'm stoked! Haven't messed with the Helix in months. Loving me some Two Rock Bloomfield Drive and Cardiff too much.
Title: Re: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: chuckinator5k on March 19, 2019, 08:24:21 PM
Speaking of solid State, I have a Roland Jazz Chorus 40 that I like a lot. The cleanest of cleans.
Title: Re: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: DannyDV8 on March 28, 2019, 03:59:21 PM
That's what I was using when I played in "New Buffalo Springfield".  It was perfect for that gig.
Title: Re: Chuckinator5k NAD Before Yesterday
Post by: KenBJammen on April 12, 2019, 06:03:30 PM
I am still hanging in there and liking the versatility of the Kemper.   At this point in my life anything that gets me playing is good